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The Official Erin and Juli’s
Revised Rules for Dating       

By Erin Ann McBride and Juli Hiatt Caldwell. All rights reserved, thank you very much!

From time to time we have brought to you our rules for what not to do on a date.  We still maintain that we can’t tell you how to get a date, but we can always tell you why you can’t get a date.  Our rules for what not to do on a date also apply for what not to do during a first conversation, encounter, visiting and/or home teaching appointment, or family dinner.  We ask you to please review the rules, ask yourself if and how often you have violated these rules, and reconsider your behavior!

We recently had the pleasure of meeting with the Single Adults of the Washington DC area during their annual conference.  We invited them to share with us their rules for dating, so what you see below is a mix of our longstanding rules and their brilliant insight. Thanks, DC Singles! We had a blast.  Read on and enjoy the Official Erin and Juli Revised Rules for Dating.

1.  Do not under any circumstances call a member of the opposite sex during your date. It’s rude, plain and simple, and it sends the message that you would rather be with that person than you.  And never ever call a member of any sex to set up a sporting event during a date.

2.  “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all.”  Practice thinking happy, nice thoughts to say on your date, or in pleasant conversation. 

3.  Do not discuss how you believe that the two of you met in the preexistence and agreed to find each other here.  There’s no better way to send the object of your desire screaming into the night. Save those revelations for when you have a serious, well-established relationship!

4. If you must use the restroom, please refrain from describing the event in graphic detail upon return.  We regret that we must bring this up at all!

5. Do not set guidelines for what is or isn’t allowed in your future hypothetical marriage and/or relationship with any hypothetical or potential mate.  Likewise, do not set guidelines for what will or won’t be allowed during your date.  You may set forth an agenda for the evening, but you may not set restrictions upon your date’s independent spirit.

6.  Do not discuss all the awful things your last significant other did during your relationship.  You’re just sending the message that, if things don’t work out on tonight’s date, you’ll be gossiping about it to someone else in the near future.

7. Health Issues:

  • Do not discuss them at all, especially those related to your intestinal tract.
  • Do not pick your nose (this seems like a no-brainer but you'd be surprised...) 
  • "Pull my finger" is never funny to a girl.
  • Do not lift the band aid. We do not wish to see the scab.
  • Do not double dip or backwash.  Use a little common sense and pretend you’re on job interview, because in a sense, you are.  You’re screening potential future mates!  We can pretty much guarantee no employer would hire you if you spend time doing a little nasal extraction during an interview, so don’t be surprised if your date isn’t interested in round two either.

8. Do not cry.  It will come back to haunt you, we guarantee it. This is aimed mostly at girls, who are known for bursting into tears from time to time in what can only be accurately described as hormone-induced temporary insanity.  Guys, especially those who don’t know you well, are incapable of handling this correctly. Please spare them.

9. Do not tell your life history.  Give your date little tidbits of information at first, leaving more questions than answers.  Always leave them wanting more.  What better way to get another date?

10.  Do not ask on a first date if your companion has prayed about the relationship.  It’s a first date, not a relationship!

11. No matter how difficult, please refrain from belching out the alphabet.

12.  Do not under any circumstances call your mother during the date. 

13.  Do not ever attempt to explain something using charades or exaggerated hand motions.  Sadly, you look like an idiot.

14.  Do not under any circumstances ask if you look fat, or if any specific body part looks fat.  Again, this is for the girls.  Guys can’t answer this question properly and it’s unfair to put that sort of burden on them at all!

15.  Do not ever roll down the window and ask, "Can you smell that?"

16.  Never ever lie about how many times you have been married.  Actually, just don’t lie!

17.  Do not tell your date about the great deal on a high chair you saw at a yard sale, and how you were thinking about buying it, just in case your date goes well.  Frugality is an excellent trait, but this goes back to number 3.  If the relationship is new, this will only serve to freak the person out.

18.  Do not ever offer to give your date a makeover or enter them in a reality TV makeover show.

19.  Do not talk about the pop icons you not-so-secretly fantasize about.

20.  He who asks pays, regardless of gender. 

21. Have an opinion, but not the only opinion.  Most people like to have a lively discussion. If your response to a question is, “I like that too,” hoping that they’ll see how much you have in common, you have succeeded only in not letting them learn anything about you—and killed the conversation in the process!

22.  Make it clear you are on a date, or not, as the case may be. There I nothing wrong with clarifying that you are going to dinner as friends, or that you want to get to know someone better.  Clear up any ambivalence about dating at the outset. And absolutely no Duty Free Dating!  (http://www.meridianmagazine.com/singlethought/040916duty.html ) It is our life’s mission to eradicate this social beast from existence!

23.  Do not tell the stories of all the cheating you did while married.  Raquel, Denver, PA.

24.  Never ever tell your date that the Spirit told you that “she’s the one.”  Spiritual blackmail is not a good thing.  Matt, Burke, VA.

25.  Don’t hang out the wash—you can get tumble dried.  Rufus, Maryland.

26.  If you must pierce something, do not pierce your tongue.  Your date wants to be able to understand what you are saying.  Becky, North Carolina.

27.  If you are bilingual, do not answer the phone while watching a movie and then converse in your native language.  Ann, Virginia. 

28.  If you pick out a movie for your date to watch, ask your date what he/she might like.  Then your date won’t be bored to death.  Ann, Virginia.

29.  Don’t be “nice,” be honest.  Eric.

30.  Don’t tell me about your medical problems on the first date.  Sam.

31.  Don’t keep asking me the same questions and have the same conversation every time we talk.  G. Daniel.

32.  While you’re kissing your date, don’t tell them you’re thinking about a previous relationship you had with someone else.  Doug, Maryland.

And our absolute most favorite (we’re just sorry we didn’t think of it first)-

33.  Don’t talk about the parasites you picked up on your mission.  Merlin, Alexandria, VA.  We have decided that the proper response to anyone commenting on your parasite would be to say, “May I have seconds please?  Gotta feed the tapeworm!”

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Some Topics for the New Year

We would like to try something new this week.  The following letters from readers have brought up some interesting topics.  We open up these subjects for your response.  We can’t wait to hear what you have to say!  

Disappearing Act

Shanie wrote, “I have a question that maybe some of your readers can answer for me.  Let me explain the situation first.  I met a guy on a vacation I took with my friends. When I returned from our trip he called and asked me out.  It was a fun date.  He called the next few weeks and we saw each other almost every weekend.  Things were going great, I thought, and then all of a sudden he just stopped calling altogether.  Is this what guys do when they don't want to go out anymore?  I am not the type of girl to dwell on this, since obviously it was not going anywhere, but I am still confused at the aspect of him asking me out and then vanishing.  Why do guys do that?  I know some of you men may think we are too sensitive to take the truth, and yes, some of us might be devastated, but let us know your feelings.”

It’s not just guys who practice this, but for Shanie’s sake, let us know what you think.  Why would this guy just disappear without as much as a ‘good-bye’ or a ‘nice to know you?’

Girls Just Want to Have Fun … and Not Stay Home Alone

Jennifer writes in to say, “I am a currently a student at BYU-Idaho.  I find it frustrating to date here.  All the guys I have met are either dating, have a girlfriend, or haven't gone on a mission. Guys here like the responsibility to ask the girl out.  What I find frustrating is that they never will ask the girl out.  What are we supposed to do?  Wait around half our lives for them to ask us out or ask them out ourselves?  I asked a guy out on a date and he was so uncomfortable with the idea that I asked him out that the date was no fun.  Guys need to realize that if they ask a girl out they probably won't get rejected the first time.  Girls are nice!”

It may just be the most complicated question in a single girl’s life.  Should girls ask guys out or not?  Your opinions please!!

Too Much Mom and Dad Time?

“I have a running argument with a friend about what is an acceptable level of closeness to parents for an adult.  I know a lot of people who have had relationships severely strained by in-laws, who often become confidants for things that should be resolved within the relationship.  In some extreme cases, they actually work to undermine a relationship.  My friend says he thinks it's fine for a girl to talk to her parents every day; I have to say I find that really weird for an adult.  My family emails a lot, but I only actually speak with my parents once every month or two.  I love them to death, but there is a very clear separation between us.  My parents and I had a fairly easy time letting go, but when I go home and spend time with them, we are very close.”  Daniel, VA. 

What do you think?  Can a girl be too close to her parents?

Single Moms Need Some Fun Too

A divorced mother of three emailed us to say that sometimes she just has to say no to a date.  She prefers to meet her dates at the restaurant, rather than at her home.  She would prefer not to introduce her dates to her five-year-old son, who will inevitably ask, “Is he going to be my daddy?”  It’s too complicated to bring a date home.  She would rather play it safe and meet at the restaurant, which tends to send the signal that she’s the independent type, and she finds herself paying for dinner as a result.  So now she has to pay for dinner, parking, and the babysitter.  Suddenly she’s out over $50 just to go out with a guy she already knew she wasn’t that interested in.  She doesn’t want to send the wrong signal that she’s not interested in dating.  She wants to get out and have some fun.  But how?  Where is the happy medium?  Do men realize what they are asking of a single mom?  Does anyone have any advice for single parent dating?

Your thoughts on this and anything else you have read today are always welcome in our humble little inbox: erinandjuli@meridianmagazine.com.

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About the Authors:

With "Sex and the City" and "Friends" dominating our culture, LDS Singles have few places to turn for wholesome entertainment geared towards them. This column aims to fill that void. Authors Juli Hiatt Caldwell and Erin Ann McBride share a combined total of 19 years of dating and 13 years in singles wards. Between them they count over 15 ex-boyfriends, 8 singles wards, and at least 5 email addresses. Friends for seven years, they share many of their personal experiences in this format. As they like to remind each other, “All stories depicted herein are mostly true and will resemble characters living and deceased. Some names and facts have been changed to protect the innocent, make the reader laugh, and in some cases preserve the dignity of the authors. Although the authors are pretty sure they surrendered their dignity long ago.”

Julianne Hiatt Caldwell was born in Anaheim, California, the fourth of seven kids in a very rowdy, loud family. They moved to Utah, where she completed school and started her college education before moving to the Washington, D.C. area, where she worked as a nanny for three years. She met her husband Bryan on a trip to Utah to visit her family, and they were married six months later in the Bountiful Temple. They have been married six years. Juli and Brian are the proud parents of the two most adorable little girls on the planet, Caliana, 4, and Deandra, 1. Cali and Andi are the proud mommies of a host of baby dolls and family pets, including three fantail goldfish they have named Marlin, Dory, and Nemo. Juli and her family are members of the Palm Bay 2nd ward in Florida. She also recently completed her first 5K race and looks forward to running more. Juli is an avid reader, singer, and musician. She also enjoys freelance writing and will soon complete her college degree online from Weber State University.

Erin Ann McBride is a native of the Washington, DC area. She is an events and party manager, currently putting her talents to work as a gun show planner for Beretta USA. She also runs her own business, Events By Erin, on the side. When she is not busy planning dates, parties, and weddings for her friends, she can be found volunteering at the local fire department where she is a certified fire fighter and EMT-B. Erin Ann loves to travel and visit third world countries. It is her dream to someday live and write full-time about life in less fortunate countries. Erin Ann graduated from George Mason University and holds a B.A. in Political Communication and Broadcast Journalism. She also enjoys romantic dinners, moonlight walks on the beach, chick flicks, roller coasters, professional sporting events, and does not currently have a boyfriend. Erin Ann is currently a member of the Langley YSA Ward, McLean, VA Stake, where she enjoys planning weekly activities for her friends while serving as a Family Home Evening Group Leader.

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